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Poster: jerlouvis Date: Jul 4, 2010 12:58pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Happy Birthday U. S

Hey Longnstrange,I find your post quite appropriate amongst this flag waving idiocy.It is indeed disappointing to see people on a site like this support such small minded thinking as is displayed by your average American patriot.Our government is a vile,evil entity as is every other government on this planet.I see not one single reason to be proud of where you are born,never mind the fact that what our representatives do in our name on a daily basis is reprehensible.They are responsible for countless deaths,environmental nightmares and the ruination of people lives in pursuit of money and power for the true ruling class of this planet.To think that if you disagree with the way things are you as a citizen can actually do anything to make a real change is at the least naive,if not incomprehensibly stupid.

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Poster: Street Pig ! Date: Jul 4, 2010 1:57pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Happy Birthday U. S

No other country like USA you can talk garbage about and not be persecuted, remember in November

We voted the slime in we can vote them out!

The Grateful Dead were Americana at it's best!

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Poster: skuzzlebutt Date: Jul 4, 2010 3:05pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Happy Birthday U. S

"The Grateful Dead were Americana at it's best!"

Exactly my point. For all that's wrong, or has ever been wrong, with America it's virtually impossible to imagine any other culture giving birth to the Grateful Dead.

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Poster: high flow Date: Jul 4, 2010 1:41pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Happy Birthday U. S

For me, the bottom line is WE can make the changes. The government is NOT there to hold your hand or coddle you.

So, despite the fact that you have unraveled the grand conspiracy, you're not taking us any closer to your utopia. Whining is the easy and lazy way out. Until you can show facts regarding the scandalous actions and desires of those in power and show that YOU have taken action to improve this Nation, your gum-flapping is completely hollow.

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Poster: jerlouvis Date: Jul 4, 2010 2:05pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Happy Birthday U. S

As far as I can see I made no claims of cracking any conspiracies,did not mention a utopia in any way,at no point desired any governmental coddling.What i did was make some statements about how I felt about our government,and since those statements do not align with your beliefs you call it whining,well I'll call that small minded.As such a proud American you should understand that my right to "whine" is one of our greatest freedoms.Maybe you could enlighten me on how we could effect some changes in our policies concerning the environment,drugs,what countries we choose to invade and wage war with,how to keep the religious cultists out of decision making loop etc. etc.You seem to be privy to change making mechanisms.

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Poster: high flow Date: Jul 4, 2010 2:47pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Happy Birthday U. S

"Our government is a vile,evil entity as is every other government on this planet."

I guess I simply don't agree with that statement.

The system can work if the elected participants truly serve the masses. Until we the citizens DEMAND such treatment the finger points squarely upon US. As a society, we have yet to apply enough pressure where it hurts. It can be done. All this other stuff is a distraction from the true solution. The government must serve the people. In turn, the people must act with compassion and common sense.

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Poster: jerlouvis Date: Jul 4, 2010 4:40pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Happy Birthday U. S

Talk about some utopian ideals,all we need are some honest politicians,a well informed compassionate citizenry and some well placed pressure of some sort that I am not familiar with.This country is populated for the most part with morons,it is still a fairly racist,misogynistic,homophobic,christian based culture.Good luck pulling any compassion and common sense out of the cesspool that is the American public.As for the thought of an honest politician serving the needs of his constituents,you have got to be kidding.I won't dignify that with a response.We have no power over the government at all and can apply no pressure of any consequence.

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Poster: skuzzlebutt Date: Jul 4, 2010 7:59pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Happy Birthday U. S

"Good luck pulling any compassion and common sense out of the cesspool that is the American public"

Yeah, you're right. Too bad they're all not as enlightened as you obviously think you are. I'm sure if you cloned yourself and we could just install you in all the key power positions around the globe, everything would be just peachy.

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Poster: jerlouvis Date: Jul 4, 2010 9:00pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Happy Birthday U. S

I made no claims of having any answers or being particularly enlightened on the subjects being discussed,your contribution to the thread seem to solidify my moron point though.Some blather about acid tests in Tehran and how no other country could produce a rock band,the importance of Americana in Grateful Dead iconography,how it seems okay with you for the government to test drugs on unsuspecting recruits because the Dead dosed the kool-aid and so on.I'm pretty sure I could match wits with a dullard such as yourself on most topics.

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Poster: skuzzlebutt Date: Jul 5, 2010 6:07am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Happy Birthday U. S

"I made no claims of having any answers or being particularly enlightened..."

Actually, by calling the public at large a cess pool, that's pretty much exactly what you're doing: implying that you're above it. As for the rest, the personal insult is as always the last refuge of blowhards who can't back up their gab.